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Blue State Politics: Are You Better Off?

Politicians on both sides of the aisle are asking constituents whether voters are better off now than they were four years ago. We want to know what Maryland thinks.

 

 

It’s a seemingly simple question being asked across the land by Democrats and Republicans alike: Are you better off than you were four years ago?

The answer is likely to have a big impact when people go to the polls in November for national and local elections.

It was a question that Ronald Reagan first asked to great effect in his debate with Jimmy Carter in 1980. (Check out the second clip in the accompanying YouTube video.)

Then, as now, the economy was struggling and a Democrat was seeking re-election.

We want to know what Maryland thinks. Are you better off than you were four years ago? What has changed to make your answer true for you? Let us know in the comments section.

Related Topics: Barack Obama, Blue States, Maryland politics, Mitt Romney, National Politics, and election 2012

Ed James

6:20 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Every time I hear that question, I can only wonder why people are not instead asking "Are you better off now than if the *OTHER* guy had been elected?"

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JohnS

9:17 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Because he wasn't elected.

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Tom

9:28 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

It depends on what biased media outlet you get your news from. Liberal news watchers "oh yes this is the best we've ever been in America" Conservitive news - "This is the worst recession recovery ever" So where is the truth??

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mark m

11:33 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Gas has doubled, My house is worth 30% less, taxes are up and a extra charge
on liquor.........
another four years like this ....I can not imagine.

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tcmitssr

1:32 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

"Change!" - No we haven't unless you're receiving welfare because if you're working or on Social Security, Obama has...most definitely, not cared about you.

"Yes we can!" - He can but he hasn't for the vast majority of the middle class. OTOH, if you are already receiving public assistance and not paying any taxes, Obama has been doing all he can for you.

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Chris E

4:55 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Frank why don't you give the whole picture instead of what you want everyone to believe.. The average gas price for July 2008 was $4.11. so yes it was more expensive than it is now it started climbing and in April of 2008 it was roughly $3.50 a gallon it peaked at $4.11 in July and we were at $1.99 a gallon by early October. and went down to $1.79 a gallon. We had about 2 months of gas prices being higher than now. How long have our gas prices been higher than $1.79? As for housing. The market hit is peak in the fall of 2006. The prices started to fall in late 2006 and early 2007. They did not bottom out in 2010. As a matter of fact in March of 2012 they hit a 9 year low.

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Chris E

5:12 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

No, I said they went back down to $1.99 in that time. They continued to decline to $1.79. We hit a 5 year low within a few months of JUly of 2008 You can look it up.The information is out there.

Hugh Blocker

6:48 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

As a CPA, I can tell you that the small business owner is dying compared to 4 years ago. We cannot spend money w do not have as a nation. We need fiscal responsibility in the White House and in Congress. We do not have it now and our elected officials we have now show no sign of helping us.

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Galo Correa, Jr.

1:41 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Well put! I am a small buiness owner and it has been hard for the past 3 1/2 years, very hard!

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Mike Carlson

6:42 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

But the point of the question is really a test of a sitting President's policies, right. With Carter, inflation started during his term and he couldn't get it under control. Here the crash happened before Obama was in office and there were huge deficits when he took office. Also, remember that the proposed Republican stimulus (more tax cuts) would also have added to the deficit. Of course, assuming budget and economics are the same things is wholly unfounded. There is no evidence that balancing the budget would improve this economy. Reagan got the economy moving not only by cutting taxes, but increasing spending and creating a deficit (a very big one). It's not sustainable in the long run for sure; no doubt debt can have an effect on the economy, but they are far from the same thing. BTW, can Tea Party members speak to the famous Dick Cheney comment that Deficits Don't Matter. Maybe they just matter for Obama?

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Tom

9:05 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

@Mike Carlson --- and your point being???

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B Allen

3:28 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Yes, small businesses have been hit hard and will be hit harder should Obama get re-elected. Even OWEmalley when first asked that question right before the DNC admitted that Americans were NOT better off under now, then they were 4 yrs ago. Maybe he misunderstood the question BUT, out of the mouth of babes, comes the truth. He went back to the Dem leaders afterward and they spanked his butt and he came back the next day saying Americans were better off. With that being said, with the shifting of dollars from the Transportation fund to the General Fund by OWEmalley, how can you trust someone who steals from the taxpayers and expect us to put the money back into the transportation fund with all the tax increases. One tax in particular devastated the high tech indusrty in MD and companis lost customers because they had to raise prices. The legislature went back and recinded that tax but it was too little, too late.

Mary

6:53 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

My answer would be "yes, definitely". My husband and I own a small remodeling company. By the end of 2007 I could have told you about the likelihood of the housing crash. New home construction had just about dried up by then. Over the past 4 years we have slowly built up a remodeling company and are again making a profit.

However, the question should not be personal. This is a national election and therefore should be about the health of the nation. There is no question that the economy, USA's auto manufacturers, America's relations with other national leaders and bank/financial companies are all better now than in 2007/2008.

Let's keep moving forward!

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reaganredux

8:38 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

What planet are you from? Auto unions are better off.The socialists took your money and gave it to the unions that now own GM. No question you say. Typical Marylander, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, a lib to the end.

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The_legal_immigrant

8:43 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

"...America's relations with other national leaders..."
Like Muslim Brotherhood?

Another little Goebbels.

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Tom

9:21 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

You are probably better off because you still have a job and are smart enough to maintain a payroll and run your business within your means, no thanks to whomever is in power.

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reaganredux

10:36 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Frank, the equity holders in GM were ignored, investments wiped out. Score of dealerships were forced to close, not of their own chosing. Non-union employees had no recourse and lost their jobs. This was all about the unions, talking points or not. The unions ended up with ownership and the company is still failing. Question, Where in the Constitution does it say taxpayer money should be used to prop up failing businesses? the only talking points are the endless drivel from Obama drones like you

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tcmitssr

1:36 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

46 percent of Americans are paying taxes to support the other 54 percent who do not. As a small business owner, expect your share of taxes to rise if Obama is re-elected....that is if your business is able to survive at all. More small businesses have failed under Obama than any President since the Great Depression.

..and please don't say "it's Bush's fault." Obama's had four years and a Congressional majority during his first two years. He couldn't even convince a majority of his own Congress to give him what he wanted. Even our Congressman, Steny Hoyer, despite being Minority Leader, has opposed him on some of his various tax and spend proposals.

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Maryellen Brady

4:16 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Thank you. Obama saved the auto industry from going bust, all the while fighting off the attacks of ideologues who still cling to the failed economics of TRICKLE DOWN. It wasn't the dems who took the Clinton surplus and turned it into deficit. It wasnt the dems who started two wars of choice and ran up the deficit. Progressives have been in the lead in deficit reduction since the great depression. The Shame of the republican party is that instead of being willing to address solutions, they chose as their national GOAL to make Obama fail. Well stimulus did pass (inspite of repubs) and it has worked which is why the economy is moving forward instead of backward. It created jobs and invested in alternative energy and transportation projects. So are we better off, you bet we are. It could have been so much better if the House republicans had spent more time working on JOBS' bills which they promised in 2010, instead of their 33 bills on women's reproductive rights and contraception. Not a single jobs bill from the republicans in 4 years. They have no economic plan to help workers. Are we better off as a nation. You betch, we are!

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reaganredux

5:20 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

thats right Frank, it was Reagan and Bush that created the deficits. Another Obama drone. Reagan always wanted smaller government but the libs would not let him. He didnt rule by decree like Obama who disregards the Congress and has said so. this is why the Tea Party is so important. The constitution,which Obama hates , has to be obeyed. Obama hates capitalism, he doesnt understand it, never has been involved in it. Dont you agree?

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Tom

9:10 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

@MaryEllen Brady -- I'm glad you admit that progressives are in the lead. Wake up America - Progressivism is ruining our country - they've convinced MaryEllen that we are better off all under the guise of fairness. That's why Obama always sounds so enlightening and hopeful. Hope and Changed sounded so great compared to "my friends". Now we face the reality of continued debt and looming hyperinflation towards falling off the economic cliff.

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B Allen

3:57 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

but don't forget there frankie...the UAW did get preferential treatment in those pension plans which, BY LAW, should have been shared equally with all creditors, etc as it goes in bankruptcy cases. Which this did not, it was a ponsi scheme by the obama administration to milk the American taxpayers and preferential treatment to unions because as obama says, that he owes them http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303768104577462650268680454.html Just like he did the folks at Solyndra another $535Million to his buddies who raised campain funds for him. He owed them also. Obama admin gave them that money KNOWING almost to the day (from OMB reports) when they would be filing for bankruptcy. The Bush admin turned them down because of that info by the OMB...of course you will try and spin the facts some other way. As typical in ANY business plan that the dems try, the taxpayers ALWAYS get the shaft.

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B Allen

4:03 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Mary, the ONLY reason you are doing well is because people cannot afford to buy another home, they just have to remodel or add on to their existing home. Lets face it, money is cheap right now to borrow, why not do it because if obama gets re-eledted we will see the credit rates we saw during the carter years. Rates were 18% to purchase a home when carter was there. I know, that is what we had when we bought our first home. We did get a 3yr buydown, started at 15% but thank GOD Reagan was elected and within a couple of years I was able to refi at 8%. Enjoy it while you can, but now that you put it out there, OWEmalley is coming for it.

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B Allen

4:49 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

@Maryellen, was this you who made this phone call and moved from Boca Raton because you were run out ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpCHvHWUAvw

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Steve

5:06 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

LOL A Clip from the Michael Weiner Show??

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B Allen

5:26 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

HAHAHAHA Yeah Frankiegirl and your little girlfriend Stevie...I thought you people would get a kick out of hearing how you people sound with your left wing "facts and figures". rants and raves...I bet you people get your info from the same place that woman in the video I posted. I thought of you people when I listend to it again. Frankiegirl, was it you really in that video and you moved from Boca to MD? Is that what you were saying in your "typical" response? Laughing AT you, not with you.

LevelheadedOne

7:38 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

No- we're not better off. As much as we tried to keep people on, we've have to let a few people go who worked for us too, and unfortunately they're not better off, at all either. Our clients aren't better off, we hear daily stories from them of how the economy for the past 3 years has hurt them financially. Our families up and down the east coast who were working hard and producing and supporting their families are now in the same economic strain, some out of work as recently as 2-3 months ago.
I have to disagree with Mary above- I don't think that the economy is better off. If the auto industry is better off, it's because the government poured our money into it. As far as the "relations" with other leaders....have you picked up a paper in the past two weeks? If this is "forward" I have no interest in taking another step with you.

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David Zwald

8:13 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

How could we possibly be better in this state until school choice is made possible by the hypocrites running this State? Prince George's County schools are 24th of 25 in Maryland, one of the wealthiest counties in the country. This year, we have more than a political battle. This is an ideological battle. A political leader in Prince George's County looked me right in the face and said that he didn't think that competition would do anything for schools. Of course he would say that. That's where he gets his power. But in America, choice for products and services IS the genius of the American way. Healthy competition is what has given us the greatest standard of living, and more importantly, it is what gives us true hope that tomorrow WILL be a better day. Our candidates - Tony O'Donnell, Faith Loudon, and Dan Bongino - Senate - understand this problem with the ideology of an insulated and out of touch State and Federal Government. Ladies and Gentlemen, do not let yourself get branded to a D or a R this election. Think and study what is going on and why. I'm confident that you will vote for YOUR freedom, your HOPES and not just go for the entrenched bureaucrat.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

9:48 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

If competition isn't good for schools then the sports programs should be stopped and immediately.

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B Allen

4:08 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

the dems in MD are working on that as we speak. Look at what they did to the rules for high school football this year. The bands had harder and longer camps. The dems in MD are trying to breed a bunch of midiocre at best pansies. You get that Frankiegirl?

Bill Hussein O'Stalin

8:28 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

The question defies the liberal mandate. Since liberalism is based on community organizing then "you" couldn't possibly be better off than the other members of your community.

It's obvious the economy is still tanking and wait until Obamacare kicks in and layoffs start. People will be layed off in the millions which will lead to a further increase in the unemployment rate.

Unless Obamacare is repealed expect some serious pain in everyone's future.

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B Allen

4:11 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Many companies would much rather pay the fines then have to pay for NObamacare. It would save companies millions in some cases, which could mean more jobs. But then again, NObama says he creats jobs...HAHAHA Just like the DOE produces energy...hahaha

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B Allen

4:21 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Frankiegirl, when are you and your little girlfriends going to stop attacking the TRUTH. REAL people try to post meaningful comments, facts, figures and videos, which in my case are ALL TRUE. Then you and your little friends have to go on the attack, with nothing more than name calling, rants and raves like little 4yo girls. The comment about liberalism is not totally correct, as P.J. O'Rourke put it, "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats..." and it goes on from there. I keep trying to remind you frankiegirl to have some respect for yourself. I know people like you have no respect for others, but give it a try on yourself for starters, you just might like it instead of being full of hatred, racism, bigotry, hatred of women and resentment for your failure as a person. Not an attack on you, just an observation from all the crapola you and your little gf's post on these boards.

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Marian Coombs

10:35 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Amen, brother. Talk about trading your patrimony for a mess of pottage - or in this case, for an impotent message.

Nick

8:45 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Since 2008 my taxes have gone up, my salary has been frozen, and my house value has collapsed. The only way I'm better off is that I still have a job, unlike too many other Marylanders. The answer seems pretty obvious. 

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Andrea

10:44 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

I'm in the same situation as Nick. It's been a very hard 4 years. I do still have my job, but it has been such a struggle with the cost of EVERYTHING going up. The answer, as Nick states, is obvious.

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KMedlen

2:45 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

My wife lost her job January 2009; our take home income dropped 55%. A year later I lost my job. Found one at 20% less than what I was making before. Have a 30 year fix rate that I owe 20% more than what it is worth and BoA is useless in trying to help.
So my answer would be a big fat NO!
I guess on a positive note, I was promised CHANGE!
That much I got!!!

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B Allen

4:30 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Also, to add one more...if you have retirement accounts you will see that they are 38 to 40% down from when obama's second yr in office. I know if Romeny gets elected thigs will happen. You will see your incomes go up because of the tax breaks he will have congress give to the middle class, you will see gasoline prices go down, which will have a direct effect on food, clothing and other products that have to be moved around by tractor trailers. You will see companies hiring, because Romney wants to reduce the corporation tax for businesses to make them competitive with other countries, some of who chgarge NO TAX whatsoever...just like MD who charges more corp tax then VA, why do you think businesses want to go to VA b4 they even think about incorporating in MD. Libs jus don't get it. They just live in la-la land. i.e. I was at a dem meeting overa yr ago and one idiot stood up and asked the MD legislators there, "why not go to other states around MD and ask them to raise their taxes also". I could NOT believe that 1. that idiot asked that question and 2. most of the people there agreed with him. Even the legislators there thought it was a rediculous question but they put him down nicely by saying, I don't think we can do that.

reaganredux

8:46 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

This guy is bringing us to soft tyranny.

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Tom

10:22 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

"you didn't build that!"

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Tom

10:32 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

The reality of the double standard, when you have a complicit media.

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Mike Carlson

6:32 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

So much of what you say is demonstably inaccurate. Reagan did preach a smaller government and less regulation, but in reality the government (in terms of employees and spending) was the largest in history during his administration. The "liberals didn't let him" make smaller government argument is seriously flawed He was too a large extent able to pass his agenda and if you read David Stockman's book (Reagan's director of OMB) you'll see that they knew cutting taxes would create a deficit. As George Will (conservative) pointed out at the time, Reagan proposed budgets with more spending and bigger deficits than that passed by the Democratic Congress in every year but the one where they agreed to a budget together. Ironic thing is that Obama (without labeling it as such) basically followed the Reagan plan of tax cuts and increased government spending. (While Obama has proposed income tax increases on the rich, they've never been passed. He did, however, pass tax cuts in the stimulus bill and later passed a payroll tax cut. Of course, Reagan also eventually raised taxes, too). Reality is that Dems almost always create more jobs than Reps and the stock market almost always does better under the Dems. Stability created by regulation actually creates confidence. We tried the tried the no regulation economy at the beginning of the industrial era and got a few rich families, a small middle class, a lot of workers who were on the edge of survival and a Great Depression.

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Tom

9:11 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

@Mike Carlson --- and your point being???

Jim Davis

9:09 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Personally, yes. But that is a qualified yes. With the state of the economy and the absolute inability of our elected political leadership at both the State and Federal levels to even talk to each other, much less work to solve the financial situation they have gotten us into I fear we are heading the way of Greece, Spain and Portugal. They have "borrowed and spent" Social Security and Medicare to the point that the only way the government can meet it's mandated "Full Faith and Credit" obligations will be to either cut these programs, along with most others, drastically and raise taxes to the point of stagnating our economy. Maryland hasn't done any better in controlling itself. We, the people need to fire the professionals and return government to the people. Note this is not "Tea Party", it is common sense.

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Jeri SIngleton

9:11 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

We are all better off!!
Terrorists gone.
Obama is hardest working President.
We would be deep depression if he wasn't working so hard.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

9:33 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

So not being in a depression (Yet) is better than the horrible never ending recession we are in now?

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Tom

10:01 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Terrorists Gone? -- Hello! - 4 Americans were murdered last week in an Act of Terror. The Middle East is on Fire
Just because someone works hard doesn't mean they are solving the problem.

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Tom

10:03 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Mathematically the recession ended three years ago, mathematically unemployment is 8.1%, mathematically gas prices have risen, mathematically QE1,2,+3 have devalued our dollar and inflated the price of everything, and last but not least, mathematically we are 16 trillion dollars in debt.

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Tom

10:14 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

I loved math. Too bad many people can't do their own math and realize how bad things are economically and how they are being bamboozled.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

11:02 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

If you're unemployed GDP based recession figures don't matter. Tell 23 unemployed Americans the recession is over.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

11:02 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

That was supposed to be 23 million unemployed Americans.

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LevelheadedOne

11:43 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Jeri Singleton- Are you being sarcastic? It's our responsibility to the future of this country to educate ourselves on the economy. The state of our nation is not good. The prices at the tank are higher than ever- even after labor day. Are you aware of what QE3 means? It means the dollar will be devalued even more, our homes worth even less. Have you picked up a paper recently? The terrorists are not gone. The muslims hate us more than ever. Maybe you think OBumer is the "hardest working President" but he's not effective- at all. He's been horrible for the nation. Wake up.

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Shawn B

12:04 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Seriously, I had to double check the date of this reply. Terrorists gone????? Lets mention that to the families of the recently killed at the Libyan Embassy.

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Amy Leahy

3:57 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

OK Jeri Singleton - whose kool-aid are you drinking? The POTUS works hard at only two things…golf and campaigning. Terrorists are still here….did you see what they did to our embassy in Libya? You must be kidding...

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Bob

1:41 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Jeri - Terrorists gone. - Tell that to the 4 dead in Libya. Or do you believe it was a "peaceful" demonstration that included RPG's and AK47"s?

Obama is hardest working President. - If you mean on his golf game, campaiging, or fund raising, you're right. How many Intel briefs has he blown off this week? When did he last meet with his "Jobs Council"? Heck even the Washington Post says he's blowing off economic briefing and getting his info from Biden. (WE ARE DOOMED!!)

We would be deep depression if he wasn't working so hard. - Over 8% unemployment for more than 45 months, underemployment at over 20%, lower number of people in the workforce (386,000 last week alone quit looking), lower home values, skyrocketing taxes, gas more than double the price from when he took office, "Misery Index" at an all tim high. If this is the effort of his "Hard Work", could he please cut it down some?

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B Allen

4:42 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Frankiegirl, it looks like you have another to join you in your little circle (you know what) and sing cooom-by-yaaa or is it the obama chant you people do? Get over it Frankiegirl, you really need to stop taking the government handouts and carrying the libs water for them. All I have seen once again is rational comments, facts &figures and what do you do???? Attack and Attack again. When are you going to come up with some facts? I have NOT seen one fact from you, just some talking point or some fabricated story you hear on PBS or something, maybe if it from the Bill Mahr character.

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Bob

6:37 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Frank, Frank, Frank...Too bad folks like you never seem to get things right. You'd rather blather with talking points and hyperbole than admit that the Teleprompter in Chief is a failure. The current workforce participation number is around 65%. When he took office it was over 67%. Add that into the misery index and it is HIGHER. Juust because you cook the books does not change the fact that there are mor people not working than before he took office.

Taxes are going up, and if Obama stays, the highest tax increase in years will hit the middle class with a vengence. Obamacare is a tax, the USS said ss. No matter how the Dems have been telling you otherwise, the ONLY way it is legal is under the Tax Authority of the Congress, which means Obama is RAISING TAXES.

And no comments on the terrorism? No cute little quip like "Osama is Dead"? Or do you believe that crap about it was a peacful demonstration?

I know this will be argued in you singularly insipid way, but it is the truth.

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You made me laugh!

10:15 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

I have to tell you people the truth. I am better off for sure. Over the last two presidents I have seen my marginal tax rate cut 14%. The S&P 500 is up 109% since January 2009. KaChing. You see the majority of my income is taxed at a 15% rate. In fact looking at the most recent census data my percentile has enjoyed a pay raise while over 270 million Americans have not. So yeah. I could pretend like things suck, but they don't. Money has never been cheaper for me. The labor market means I just hired three post-grads at entry level wages. NAFTA means I have access to tariff free manufacturing. Wow. I could go on, but you get the point.

Romney said it best. 47% of the country does not matter. Those poor people can't even contribute enough money to eat dinner with him. I gave him and his PACs 75k! Thank god corporations are people too! I love this country! When he wins I figure my marginal rate is dropping to under 12%! We bought and paid for this country fair and square. Citizens United ensures that our money matters more than your vote. You guys need to go to bed and get back to work tomorrow.

JohnS

9:19 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

As a country, we have never been in a worse spot. The US citizens are completely divided over many issues.

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Tom

9:23 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

The fact that we even have to ask this question and people believe they are better off tells you how out of touch people are with the problems our country faces. We haven't been better off for a much longer time than 4 years.

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W. L.

9:52 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

I totally agree. It started to get bad during Bush's administration.

Bob Ekman

9:39 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

We are not better off. Taxes are up and going up. Cost of living is up and going up. Income is flat or going down. The world is more dangerous even as we withdraw for the center stage. We have no energy policy. Our science and engineering skills are eroded.

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Michele Behan

9:44 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

My husband was recently laid off from his defense contractor job at Northrop Grumman along with 800+ others in January and an earlier group of 500+ in May of 2011; more layoffs are expected there before the year is over.

Also, our home is worth about $100,000 less than it was four years ago due to the burst of the housing bubble.

Not only are we not "better off" than we were 4 years ago: We're much WORSE OFF.

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W. L.

9:49 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

We started downhill with Bush, his war that killed so many young men, his war that had to be funded with loans after loans, his lies to us, and the deficit he left. He got us to the point of almost no recovery. My business suffered more in his eight years than the past 4. Our current congressman have put us where we are now. During this past 4 years, I have finally begun to recover.

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Tom

10:06 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Bush is not running for President.

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Tom

10:19 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Blame Bush! Blame Bush!. When is anyone gonna blame Obama?

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Brian

11:27 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

@Tom you ask when is anyone "gonna blame Obama?" . My question to you is when are you going to blame yourself?

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B Allen

4:55 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

W.L. you don't sound smart enough to have your own business. Yeah there were the wars that costed money, but with all that went on in those 8yrs, it is NOTHING compared to what the Obama admin has done in 3.5yrs. Also, what about all the tax increases that OWEmalley and his minions have pushed on businesses in MD. Why do you think businesses leave MD and move to places like VA. Why should you pay almost 2.5% more in corp taxes in MD then you would have to in other states surrounding MD? If you truly have a businees and you suffered, well all I can say is too bad you ha to suffer. Owemalley put many of my customers out of business with his tax increase nonsense and 80% of my income went away his first 3 yrs in office. Don't blame bush for the inadequecies of this amatuer pres and the dem run congress who caused the problems. If nobamacare hits, you will be paying over $4000 more in taxes/yr...then what are you going to say? That is just a start. obama wants all the bush tax breaks to stop on Jan 1 because he thinks he is going to get re-elected and it will be after election time. Oh that hope and change has turned into,bend over and take it.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin

9:55 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

We started downhill with Lyndon Johnson. His war on poverty has cost the country over 9 trillion and poverty is higher now than when the war started in 1967.

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Tom

10:08 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

don't forget the "RAW" New Deal. and progressive Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.

John

10:38 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

I run a home-based business and yes, I'm better off now then 4 years ago. Over the past 2 years my business has grown and despite what you read in headlines designed to get maximum readership, things are by far much better than at the end of Bush Jr's presidency.

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Tom

10:48 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Because the Obama administration did what? and the Bush administration did what? or because your business is independent of who's in power.

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B Allen

5:01 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Sure a home base biz is going to prosper...you don't have all the overhead a real business has...hell you could make $50k a yr and you don't have to drive to go to work and pay the almost $4/gal...if obama had his way he woulfd like to see $5. You don't have to pay for industrial space or office space, but you can get the tax writeoff of a home office and the utilities...but dont forget that will bite you in the but when you go to sell your home. So john, it is good you are doing better, also because you have been in business longer, when you start from nothing anything is good. Maybe obama helped you build your business???

Roxanne Powell

10:38 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Food prices much higher. Gas prices much higher. No work for the willing. The last four totally failed years have dug us into the pits!

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Brian

11:46 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

There is work for the willing. They just have to be willing to retrained and take a pay cut from their overpaid previous job.

William Thomas Capps Jr.

10:44 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

No we are not! But I contend we would be in this mess no matter who was president.
The nanny state increased as soon as Nafta and free trade with china became active. We were warned by Ross. We went to war on a credit card and wall street went nuts on peoples investments. This Republican says vote them all out in November fire the whole lot just vote for the other guy. No matter whqt party. Fliip the Senate,House and White House.

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Tom

10:52 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

I'd like to try flipping the senate, (already flipped House), and flipping the White House so the other side can have at least 2 years to at least balance out the 2 years of one party rule control from 2008-2010. We need some sort of check and balance that is supposed to be built into our Constitution. Happy Constitution Day!

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Wes

11:54 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

That is right.also put a 8 year maxl on congressial terms

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B Allen

5:02 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Give them ALL term limits instead of allowing them to make a career out of being in politice. I wonder how the lefties would vote then?

Hrtsvr83

10:45 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

There are so many drinking the "kool-aid" here. Printing money is not the road to recovery. Passing a healthcare mandate on businesses is going to have them drop folks and pay the $1800 penalty. Lower pay, under employment and downsizing is the status quo. Not quite sure, unless you're Solyndra or GE, how the "hope and change" is working for you.

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Tom

10:55 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

We live in Md. What do you expect. Hence the title to the question, Blue State Politics....

John

10:57 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Well, Romney was a one-term governor. He didn't even bother running for reelection since his job approval rating was 38%. So yeah, let's let him run the entire country.

Fact - Massachusetts under Romney was 47th in job creation.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

11:01 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

That's not factual:
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/romneys-jobs-record-is-best-or-worst/
As we wrote in an item this week when an Obama ad claimed Massachusetts “fell” to 47th under Romney, in the 12 months before he took office, the state ranked 50th in job creation. That ranking remained 50th during Romney’s first year in office, but by his final year, it had improved to 28th.

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Tom

11:05 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Fact - Massachusetts under Romney went from 5.6% unemployment to 4.7% unemployment.

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John

11:07 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Fact - Romney didn't bother running or reelection due to his dismal approval rating. "Factcheck" that away.

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Tom

11:08 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

So the average over Romneys 4 years in massachussetts was 47th place.

Joe Robinson

11:04 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

The question should not be 'am I better off'? but 'are we as a nation better off'? The answer is no and anyone being truthful will see that. Everybody needs to look beyond their own personal circumstances. Are we better off? Will our children, our grandchildren, our great-grandchildren be better off? The answer is HELL NO! The fed is printing more money... If we don't do something, we are doomed and I am not being melodramatic. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303561504577497442109193610.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

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John

11:09 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

After 8 years of Bush Sr the economy was:
A: In great shape
B In horrible shape

After 8 years of Bush Jr the economy was:
A: In great shape
B: In horrible shape

After 8 years of Clinton the economy was in:
A: Great shape
B: Horrible shape

After you answer these questions correctly you'll know which party to vote for.

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Tom

11:15 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

You forgot the only question that matters.
After 4 years of Obama the economy was in:
A: Great Shape
B: Horrible shape.

And too bad you can't elaborate on the mitigating factors to each answer, (i.e. who was in control of congress).

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Tom

11:16 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Oh and if you knew your history, Bush Sr. only had 1 term.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

11:42 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Actually, when Bush took over there was the Clinton recession.

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Marcia Diehl

12:21 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

John......I can't take a multiple choice test by a person who doesn't know his history.
Bush Sr. did not serve as President for 8 years....he served only one term for 4 years.
The economy wasn't half a bad in 1992 as it is right now. However, for the first two years of Clinton's Administration the economy go much worse until the Republican Congress was overwhelmingly voted into office in 1994.
However, even the Republicans couldn't offset the Sub-prime loans that Clinton forced banks and mortgage companies to give to people who could not afford them. It took about 10 years to finally implode in 2008 and we all know how that turned out.
BTW.....the economy was in recession at the end of Clinton's last term in office. That was when the Dot Com bubble burst, the NASDAQ crashed from 5K to 1K overnight. Lucent Technologies went from $150 on the Dow to $2, Westinghouse laid off thousands of employees, Montgomery Wards shut down their company after 100 years of operation.
Do you want me to go on?

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Brian

11:40 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Tom you do a lot of Obama bashing but you fail to recognize that in order to enact change you have to have help. This help was not there because certain groups of people were out to make Pres. Obama presidency a failure no matter what it cost.

Richard Rice

11:21 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

No, I am not better off now than I was four years ago. With taxes constantly
rising, on retirement income; under this democratic administration in the White
House and the state I am much worse off!!!

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John

11:23 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Corrected - Bush Sr's Republican party economic policies caused the economy to decline so steeply that he went one and out.

Obama? Tough to hold everything together after 8 years of Bush Jr. But sure, let's elect "Gordon Gekko" as president. What could possibly go wrong.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

11:37 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Instead of Obama accomplishments, because there aren't any, we are treated to a litany of blame Bush. That tells you all you need to know.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295558/unemployment-rate-or-unemployment-reality-andrew-c-mccarthy#
Through the magic of Washington Math and the Obama Labor Department, the metric “unemployment rate” has become as nonsensical as “jobs created or saved” by the stimulus. The Obamedia creates a free campaign ad out of the purported drop from 8.3% to 8.2% (i.e., from appalling to marginally less appalling), but meantime millions have been added to the black-hole category of “Not In the Labor Force” — people who are so discouraged that they are not looking for work. That number is at an all-time high: 88 million. Thus the labor force participation rate, at under 64%, is lower than it’s been in 30 years. Mish Schedlock concludes, “Were it not for people dropping out of the labor force, the unemployment rate would be well over 11%.”

Total Population of Germany: 82,000,000

Population of U.S. Not in Labor Force: 88,000,000

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Tom

11:40 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Just keep on dumbing down our public schools so the next generation can't learn how to balance a check book and depend on the latest government app for their iPhone to tell them what to do.

John

11:43 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Everyone I know who really wants a job, has a job. Then there are others who upload their resume to Monster.com and wait for calls while playing Word of Warcraft all day.

I believe in our area there have been what...a few thousand jobs recently created? Pretty sure I'm right.

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Tom

11:44 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

while they stare at their fading Obama posters.

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Marcia Diehl

12:27 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

All Federal or State government jobs. The ticks are multiplying while the dog is shrinking.
Since Owe'Malley has taken office over 250,000 Marylander's have fled the state to Pennsylvania and Virginia.
If it wasn't for the tax money from the rest of the nation propping up Maryland, we wouldn't have an economy at all.

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Lois Smith

7:28 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Sorry to burst your bubble,but not everyone who wants a job has a job. My husband has been out for four years, my brother over a year,, thousands of resumes, hitting the walks, going to network groups and job fairs, and NOTHING! Because they are over 50. My house has decreased so much in value,it is now only worth 60k more than when we bought it 21 years ago,even with our upgrading it. 6 years ago it was worth 2 1/2 times what we bought it for. Gasoline is very high, taxes are high, and yet nothing gets better,and people who are working are doing it without any pay increases. In my 40 years of marriage, things are worse now than when we had all 4 of our children at home. I am the sole breadwinner now. We have to pinch every penny to live. Anyone who thinks this is better that 4 years ago is hiding their head in a hole.

John

11:46 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Yeah - the economy is a real blood bath. I drove past the Greene Turtle yesterday and it was an absolute mob scene. It's really sad to watch all of those broke people without jobs.

But keep reading those headlines and remember to click on the ads.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

11:53 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

The Green Turtle is a favorite haunt of county employees. Yes, they are still doing well.

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SOUTHWESTMINSTER

12:05 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Football season, its always packed on sundays.

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Lois Smith

7:37 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

You won't ne seeing my family at the Greene Turtle, or any other restaurant for that matter!

jag

11:47 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Everyone's stock and retirement funds say "oh my goodness yes." The Obama presidency turned the greatest recession in nearly a century (750K jobs lost EVERY MONTH; huge market crash; world-wide financial collapse) into one of the best financial runs in our country's history (S&P at a 5 year high; NASDAQ at a TWELVE year high). Truly unbelievable when you think back to where we were just a few years ago.

Of course it takes longer than 3-4 years for all those jobs Bush lost to come back, but there is zero doubt that we're on the right track. The free market has made that abundantly clear.

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Tom

11:55 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Wall Street knows how to make money no matter what the conditions are. One could argue that QE 1, 2, +3. (i.e. printing more money)/inflation are driving the markets up, giving investors a false sense of security. I'm not sure what you call the latest "bubble" but when it "pops" we are screwed!

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jag

12:02 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I'd like to know what indicator you're using that supported your claim that the market is in a "bubble". Because certainly by any traditional measure stocks (as a whole) are still cheap. FYI, your personal "unfounded and constant pessimism" isn't a legitimate indicator.

Bill

11:48 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Strictly from a Maryland perspective, Democrats mean outrageous federal govenrmennt growth, which means more Maryland jobs working for the Feds. I say keep voting for outrageous debt and pork, and let the red states pay for it.

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Tom

11:52 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Nothing like more selfishness to solve our problems!

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jag

12:06 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

"Strictly from a Maryland perspective, Democrats mean outrageous federal govenrmennt growth, which means more Maryland jobs working for the Feds."

Haha, that's funny considering Romney's ads he's running for VA. They're about how Obama wants to cut spending and therefore harm all of VA's government jobs. Romney wants to spent 2 TRILLION more than Obama on Defense (money the DoD hasn't even asked for). If you're truly selfish and looking for an explosion in Fed. govt, you should certainly vote for Romney, at least according to his ads.

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Marcia Diehl

12:31 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Frank,
Sorry guy, but the Federal government has grown exponentially since Obama took office in 2009. I don't know where you are getting your figures, but you need to go to more truthful resources.

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B Allen

5:16 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Frankiegirl..."You're extremely misinformed, Marcia." That is like the "pot calling the Kettle black>>>oh wait, that would be over your head. It means you are the one that is misinformed with all your twisted stories. Get some facts, instead of atacking people when we put the truth out there.

SOUTHWESTMINSTER

11:50 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

If you have to ask................................

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

11:56 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Well, here's GM complaining about being better off than they were 4 years ago:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/general-motors-pushing-us-to-sell-stake-report-2012-09-17
The Treasury Department is resisting General Motors' push for the government to sell off its stake in the auto maker, The Wall Street Journal reports. Following a $50 billion bailout in 2009, the U.S. taxpayers now own almost 27% of the company. But the newspaper said GM executives are now chafing at that, saying it hurts the company's reputation and its ability to attract top talent due to pay restrictions. Earlier this year, GM GM -1.33% presented a plan to repurchase 200 million of the 500 million shares the U.S. holds with the balance being sold via a public offering. But officials at the Treasury Department were not interested as selling now would lead to a multibillion dollar loss for the government, the newspaper noted.

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Tom

12:07 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

My advice to the federal gov't (Treasury Department) - cut your losses now, and accept the failed bailout, and let the main stream media tout it as an Obama victory and Bush's fault.

S Kirby

12:03 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

No, this country is not better off. But I believe if Obama had not been president this country would be in even dire straits. At this point I have no respect most politicians, if you can't work together to fix issues and not hide cowardly behind party dogma then this country is not going forward. The future is dependent on issues, not party dogma.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

12:17 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

You apparently are not aware the country is in dire straits.

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tcmitssr

3:04 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

So that means you're likely to vote for Obama again because the proverbial devil you know...and didn't get the job done....is better than change which might be better? At the very least, Romney has turned around a failing Oympics and run a successful business...whether you trust big business or not. What's Obama succeeded at beyond "community organizing" when you're talking about massive amounts of finances?

Bill Hussein O'Stalin

12:21 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

You'll never hear in the media about the real effects Obama policies have had around the nation:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ten-cities-that-just-cant-turn-housing-around-2012-09-15?link=MW_story_popular
Since the peak in early 2006, the median price of a U.S. home is down by a third. And though the market has begun to show signs of having bottomed, prices are still down nationally by 1.9% from last year and are expected to fall an additional 1% from the beginning of this year through 2013.

July unemployment in the worst housing markets was above the national rate.
Of the 384 largest housing markets measured by real-estate data company Fiserv, 69 have seen home prices fall more than the national average. 24/7 Wall St. reviewed the markets with the worst home-price declines from their pre-recession peak. Of those metro areas, we identified the markets where the median price did not improve in any of the periods measured by Fiserv as of the first quarter of 2012. The 10 worst are housing markets that have fallen at least 55% and have yet to recover. See full report at 24/7 Wall St.

While the drop in home prices in these markets has slowed, the local economies have been devastated. July unemployment rates in the worst housing markets were all above the national rate of 8.1%. Eight of the 10 have rates of at least 10%, and five are above 12%. Merced, Calif., one of the 10 worst-off cities, had an unemployment rate of 17.8% in July

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jag

12:30 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

...the housing collapse is an "Obama policy"? Read much?

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Marcia Diehl

12:34 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Bill,
Don't try to use logic and facts with liberals. It only confuses them.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

12:37 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Obama's housing plans have gone through multiple reformations. All have failed and miserably. Apparently you don't read much or you don't care. Facts are facts:

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

12:41 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Here are several liberal liberal's explaining in detail why Obama's housing policies have failed. Jag needs to read more:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/20/the-best-case-against-the-obama-administration/
You had to fix the economy by fixing the housing crisis. And the administration’s housing policy wasn’t anywhere near sufficient to do that. This mistake was doubly disastrous because monetary policy, which would normally be a huge driver of recovery, typically works through the housing market, encouraging consumers to buy new homes while interest rates are low.
In this morning’s New York Times, the story of the administration’s disappointing housing policy response. It’s worth reading alongside Zach Goldfarb’s September look at the same subject. Together, the articles make an ironclad case that the Obama administration’s housing policies failed to fix the housing crisis, in part because they never really tried to fix the housing crisis.
As Appelbaum puts it, while Obama “poured vast amounts of money into efforts to stabilize the financial system, rescue the auto industry and revive the economy,” he “tried to finesse the cleanup of the housing crash, rejecting unpopular proposals for a broad bailout of homeowners facing foreclosure in favor of a limited aid program — and a bet that a recovering economy would take care of the rest.”

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jag

1:11 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Exactly! Obama refused to spend $$$$$ on a massive bailout and instead allowed for the housing market to naturally correct. Was it painful? Sure, but trying to patch the bubble back together wasn't the right thing to do. If you prefer a President who will bail out people who made terrible housing investments, then good for you. Go find a socialist to vote for. Personally, I'm for self-responsibility. Your house is worth what it's worth. Enjoy the insanely low mortgage rate Obama has given you and deal with it.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

1:13 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

That's only the liberal interpretation as I pointed out. I'm merely pointing out that he doesn't have any idea what he was doing and now even you admit it.

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jag

1:44 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Good grief. So I supposedly admitted something you never claimed (and i never agreed with) and you were showing the liberal point of view, which apparently you don't agree with, but were purporting it to be in conflict with what everyone else was saying? Do you realize how big of a waste you are being? Whatever, goodbye. Apparently you're insane, which I should have gathered from your dumb name.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

2:05 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Running from the facts isn't the answer. And personal attacks are so yesterday.

Tom

12:31 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

At some point our country is going to have to face the Truth.

"The truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable." ~Attributed to James A. Garfield

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John

12:38 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Ok guys, I'll bite:

Name the last Republican fiscally conservative president who reduced the size of our national debt and decreased the size of the federal government.

Any takers?

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

12:58 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

As usual, when you can't tell us how Obama is succeeding you have to change the subject.

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John

1:05 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

No response to my question Bill? Why, how telling.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

1:13 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

The response is you're trying to change the subject. Now you're simply diving into the deep end of the pool and it's empty.

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B Allen

5:20 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

you can't go by %'s because the numbers were NEVER as large as what the Nobama admin has amounted to. How many Billions has NObama incrfeased our national debt in 1/2 the time???? I am sure you are not looking at the REAL numbers. percentages don't mean anything in this case.

John

1:19 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Ok, so Bill's out. Any other takers? - the last Republican president to reduce debt and the size of the federal government.

C'mon everyone - this should be a no-brainer since it's the Republican platform.

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Amy Leahy

4:10 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

John…it was Harding. 1920-1924

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Tom

9:22 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Interesting. Harding came right after Progressive Woodrow Wilson. Wilson must of raised the debt and increased the size of government so bad the republican platform had to work and reduce the debt and size of federal government. History just loves repeating itself.. record debt and federal government is overreaching involved too much. Couldn't be more clear to me its time for another Harding!

Bill Hussein O'Stalin

1:25 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

The country is in turmoil, the Obama mid-east policy has failed miserably, Bernanke is launching QE3 and John wants a history lesson. Well, the only history that counts is recent history and it's all about failure, i.e., high unemployment, foreclosures still at record rates as banks bring more properties into the foreclosure process, more people on food stamps than ever in this nation's history, a fiscal cliff approaching. Now how many want that history lesson?

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tcmitssr

1:28 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I know of no one, with the exception of those on social welfare programs (welfare not Social Security, etc.) who is doing better, or even close to better with Obama as President.

It is long past the time for Obama to blame Bush for anything. He's had four years and a Democratic Congressional majority his first two. He could have passed and done anything he wanted but he didn't.

Romney is not the best alternative as I am a Republican conservative but he is far better than Obama.

The average middle class individual has lost ground and is doing far worse now under Obama than they were during Bush. That is certainly the case among my family, friends and acquaintances.

One issue is with Maryland and Prince George's being so solidly Democratic enclaves that few people are willing to say what they really think and feel because they know they will be mocked and derided for saying anything negative against Obama, O'Malley and the Democratic Party.

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michael rind

1:52 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I agree; the proper comparison is not Obama vs. Obama; it's what McCain would have done. From his own comments, it was clear that McCain didn't have the slightesst idea what to do. That's why, for the first time in my life, I voted against the Republicans in a general election. I was right then, but I'm not sure wht to do now. The right question today is whether Obama or Romney is more likely to help achieve a recovery. I'm pretty sure that Obama won't do anything much different than he's been doing. I'm totally unsure what Romney might do. It's a sorry situation..

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

2:04 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

You can't compare Obama to Obama? That is literally the stupidest comment I've ever read.

michael rind

2:00 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I agree; the proper comparison for 2008 was not Obama vs. Obama. It's what Obama did vs. what McCain would have done.. At that time, it was crystal clear that McCain was clueless, while Obama seemed to have some ideas. So, for the first time in my life, I voted for a Democrat. In 2012, the proper question is whether Obama or Romney will do a better job in the next four years..All we can go on is their respective records. Obama spends too much, and on the wrong things. Romney reminds me of McCain except he has a better resume. For me, I'll probably vote for Romney, without much enthusiasm, because I don't think government should get as involved in people's lives as he has done. Romney may make other mistakes, but at least he won't make that particular mistake.

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Amy Leahy

4:23 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Michelle, I'm glad you are a thinking person and prone to vote for Romney, but I have to ask how you think Romney believes government should be involved in people's lives? Just asking….

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Tom

9:25 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Not as much as Obama believes government should be involved in people's live. Less government the better.. so if we are basing our votes on that it is pretty clear that Romney wants less government intrusion than Obama.

michael rind

2:08 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Bill has the best qualities of Saddam and Stalin. He can't read and he can't think. Of course you can compare Obama (what he said he would do) with Obama (what he actually did in the next four years). That's the problem in a nutshell. As for my comment being the stupidest Bill has ever read, he should read his own...

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Bill

3:16 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I'm tellin ya. Keep the Maryland Gravy Train flowing! Re-Elect Obama. Of course if you really want to score big, get rid of O'Malley. Then we get the big Federal spending dollars without the heavy state taxation.

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Danna Walker

3:29 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Great discussion. Thanks for making your points and remaining respectful.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

3:41 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I will tell you who is better off and the liberals don't want you to think about them. An entire new freeloading class has been defined and they will receive access to health care and at your expense. Your premiums have already gone up and they will go up further. The freeloaders are better off now than they were when Obama took over.

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Amy Leahy

4:15 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Bill, Maryland has lost somewhere in the neighborhood of 6,500 business since OweMalley has been in office. I spoke with the owner of several Five Guys restaurants recently who said if Ubama is re-elected he'll be forced to shut down since he won't be able to afford the health care PENALTY, much less the cost of providing health care.

Steve

4:49 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Far, Far Better off then we were 4 years ago. My 401K is at record highs. During Bush's terms it went down to a 201k.

The stock market always performs better when a Democrat is in office.

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H.R. Pufnstuf

5:28 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

In all seriousness, a large part of the stock market's stellar performance is due to Apple. My memory tells me it was something like $80/share in 2008 and today it hit $700/share. I'm not sure I'd give politicians credit for that.

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H.R. Pufnstuf

6:46 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Apple wasn't around when Hoover was President but way to miss my point.

TJ

5:11 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Steve, your right but for the wrong reason. The Repubicans ran congress during the Clinton years, Democrats ran Congress during the Bush years and Obama did all his STUPID spending when the Democrats controlled Congress. Now you know how it works.

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Citizen T

5:15 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

If America was a car ( which are by choice a passenger), and that car was rolling down hill towards the ocean, and a man came along and stopped the car from falling in the ocean, and he managed to push it back up the hill at a slow pace, we would all be grateful. we would consider ourselves in a better place. So why are we ungrateful for what this President has done, with opposition from the very people who should be helping him push the car up hill. We may not be where we want to be but we are absolutely better then we were.

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TJ

5:22 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Because Obama has done NOTHING. No jobs for us, less money in our pockets, debt out of control. We can't pay the bills on his failures.

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Tom

9:26 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Just as the progressives planned it!! Duped again America. Wake up!

michael rind

5:37 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Why are we arguing about all this in Maryland? Nothing we do, nothing we say, and no matter how the people in AA County vote, Obama will win this state. Until and unless Baltimore City and Prince George's County were separated from the rest of the state, no Republican Presidential candidate has a chance of winning here.

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Tom

9:28 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

The first thing we need to do is stop this redistricting plan that is on the ballot in November. We have already been gerrymandered to the point that it's practically impossible to have a Republican Representative elected to the House.

Judith Moylan-Forman

6:13 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

As an FYI:
How Mitt Romney answered a question from conservative talk radio host Laura Ingraham.

INGRAHAM: You’ve also noted that there are signs of improvement on the horizon in the economy. How do you answer the president’s argument that the economy is getting better in a general election campaign if you yourself are saying it’s getting better?

ROMNEY: Well, of course it’s getting better. The economy always gets better after a recession, there is always a recovery. […]

INGRAHAM: Isn’t it a hard argument to make if you’re saying, like, OK, he inherited this recession, he took a bunch of steps to try to turn the economy around, and now, we’re seeing more jobs, but vote against him anyway? Isn’t that a hard argument to make? Is that a stark enough contrast?

ROMNEY: Have you got a better one, Laura? It just happens to be the truth.

Oh yes...that "truth" thing! When President Obama took office, the economy was shedding 800,000 jobs per month. In September 2008, the U.S. was in a financial panic. Investment banks were failing, mortgage giants were placed into conservatorship, and Bush was laying the groundwork for his administration’s $700 billion bailout of the financial system.

Today, a slow recovery has taken hold: slow, but an improvement. And the Republican candidate Romney himself was willing to concede as much.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

6:19 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Some of these comments are funny. Most economists agree that Obama has followed almost all of Bush's policies. Yet the liberals claim the economy is turning around but only the bad after effects belong to Bush. Educate yourself as a voter. Here's an editorial from Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/charleskadlec/2012/06/04/president-obama-pursues-the-failed-economic-policies-of-the-past/
The first step toward recovery is admitting failure. The May jobs report says loud and clear that it is time for the Obama Administration and the supporters of its economic game plan to admit their policies of increased government spending, targeted and temporary tax relief, and increased regulation of the private sector have failed to restore meaningful job growth to the U.S. economy just as they failed under President George W. Bush.

Grim is the only word to describe the environment facing the current American work force. The economy produced only 69,000 jobs in May, the lowest number in a year. When added to the prior two months, which were revised down by 49,000, non-farm payrolls increased only 289,000 in the past three months. The unemployment rate crept up 0.1 percentage point to 8.2%, making May the 40thconsecutive month in which more than 8% of the workforce has been unemployed. Including the marginally employed and discouraged workers, the U6 unemployment rate rose to 14.8% from 14.5%.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

6:23 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Food for thought from June of 2012:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/06/02/obamas_economic_model_is_a_complete_failure_114360.html
The Keynesian government-spending model has proven a complete failure. It's the Obama model. . If anything goes wrong -- there's no safety margin to stop a new recession.

... May employment report, which generated only 69,000 nonfarm payrolls. It's the third consecutive subpar tally, replete with downward revisions for the two prior months. It's a devastating number for the American economy and a catastrophic number for Obama's re-election hopes. All momentum on jobs and the economy has evaporated.

Inside the May report, the data is just as bad. The unemployment rate rose slightly from 8.1 to 8.2 percent. The so called U6 unemployment rate, tracking the marginally employed or completely discouraged, increased to 14.8 percent from 14.5 percent. And labor earnings are barely rising at 1.7 percent over the past year, almost in line with the inflation rate. In fact, through April, after-tax, after-inflation income is scarcely rising at 0.6 percent for the past year.

The private workweek also fell in May. So did the manufacturing workweek and aggregate hours worked for all employees.
Barack Obama doesn't get this, but businesses create jobs. And firms have to be profitable in order to hire. Yet the president is on the campaign trail criticizing Mitt Romney by degrading the importance of profits

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Steve

6:32 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

What's Rmoney's solution? That's right he doesn't have one!

I guess it's good enough for the 'Anybody But the Black Guy" crowd..

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Tom

8:07 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

We've already tried Obama's solution and it hasn't worked. Maybe you should spend some time figuring out what Romney's solution is so you can make an informed decision come Nov. 6th.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin

6:55 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Proposed questions for Obama from Reason.com:

Mr. President, the Supreme Court upheld your health care law only on the grounds that the penalty for not buying insurance is a tax. Doesn’t the tax then break your promise not to raise taxes on anyone earning $250,000 a year or less? Do your tax increases on cigarettes and tanning salons also break that promise? If you’ve already broken the promise at least three times, why should voters believe you won’t break it some more in a second term?

Mr. President, your party’s convention hailed the auto bailout as one of your great successes. But why should workers at lower-wage, non-union auto plants in the South, or in other industries, be taxed to bail out higher-wage unionized auto workers and retirees at General Motors? And since the GM stock would have to double its current price for the government to get its money back, wasn’t this a bad investment? Finally, speaker after speaker at your party’s convention criticized Governor Romney for an op-ed piece headline that said “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt,” without mentioning that your administration put both GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy. Isn’t that misleading?

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

8:00 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Facts are facts. Desperation is attacking the facts and the messengers.

Joseph Robert

7:35 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Attention Maryland Seniors on Medicare and All Others Using Government Assistance!!!

This is what Mitt Romney thinks of you and ALL OF AMERICANS dependent on government support:

“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them.”

“..my job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives”

Mitt Romney, speaking at fundraiser, Spring 2012

Watch the video at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/mitt-romney-trashes-the-47-percent/2012/09/17/f3ef2b6e-0116-11e2-9367-4e1bafb958db_blog.html

Mitt Romney: He thinks you act like a VICTIM!

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

7:59 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Medicare is paid for and is not what he was referring to so you're twisting his words. In terms of the numbers he's correct. Are you complaining that he didn't lie?

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Tom

9:35 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

47% is almost Half of All Obama Voters which is about 25% of all people that actually vote and since less than half of the country votes that equates to about 10% of the registered voting public. So it doesn't surprise me that Romney is not going to worry about those people. It's not like he going to change their minds. We waste so much time in this country trying to please that 10% of people that complains about something and we call it Political Correctness.

Andrew Bell

7:37 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Hes not talking about SS or medicare that people have paid into their entire lives. Actually Obama care is raiding the medicare fund.

He is talking about able bodied people in thier 20s and 30s who use thier welfare and foodstamps to buy lottery tickets and 40 ounce beers.

But the left trying to scare seniors is as old as or older than the senior citizens themselves.

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Kathy

7:52 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Did anyone actually think that Obama, or anyone else, was going to come into office, wave a magic wand, and within months, or even 4 years, all the terrorists in the world would suddenly be gone, all the jobs that have gone overseas the last three or four decades would come back, housing prices would soar back to the ridiculously overpriced levels that people were dumb enough to buy them at 10-15 years ago, banks would magnanimously forgive the large loans that people never should have gotten in the first place, and everything would be fine and prosperous? If your house was on fire and the fire department came and put it out, would it make sense to ask you as you stood looking at the smouldering embers "So, are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?" Everyone wants a quick fix, with no personal sacrifice or pain "Cut my taxes but don't reduce services" "Increase the value of the house I own, but lower the price of the house I want to buy" "Get rid of the deficit but don't raise taxes" "Cut the budget but not the military, or my social security, or anything else that matters to me--cut something I don't care about." What a nation of cry babies we have become. It doesn't matter who wins the election, because when everything is not fixed by March 1st the ranting and complaining will start again.

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Tom

9:39 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

The reality of the state of affairs is that even when we start attacking the problems with the right solutions there is a lot of financial pain and suffering ahead due to our blindness and denial of actuallly fixing the problems So just blame yourselves everyone. We the people voted for Obama and We the people will vote for the next president so We the people will be to blame for whatever happens in 2013.

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Jim Davis

11:20 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Kathy The short answer to your question is unfortunately YES Way too many of them. What people forget the President can promise, pontificate and offer anything he wants to. Congress has to provide him with the money to do it and since the last two years of the Bush administration Congress has not passed an actual budget - they have only passed Continuing Resolutions. Now for the bad part. Special Trust Funds are required to deposit all their excess funds with the Treasury where they are given Treasury Bonds. Then Congress, with the Presidents blessing spends the deposited money on other programs praying that they will be out of office when the Fund Managers are ready to cash in their Treasury Bonds. We as a Country have gotten to the point that the Fund Managers are going to have to start cashing in their Bonds, but Congress has already spent it on other things like Defense, Health Care, Infrastructure, Foreign Aid, Space, Welfare - the list goes on and on. This leaves Congress with the problem of having to cut deeply into their favorite programs as well as those programs that are absolutely necessary to run the country and/or raise taxes to cover the shortfall. Neither choice is going to be pretty or help with the recovery.
As to who is to blame, it is us. We have kept reelecting the same people to Congress and allowed them to spend us deeper and deeper into debt every year. I don't have a magic solution, but if we don't learn restraint it will be painful.

BadStatistics

7:43 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Wait til Federal sequestration comes into play. States are going to have to cover that lost revenue. Where do you think they'll get it?

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Polly

8:06 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Honestly, no I'm not better off. Since being permanently disabled 9 years ago and having to live on the SSDI (that I paid into for over 40 years) it's almost impossible. There isn't a day that goes by that I'd love to go back to the job I had to leave and that I loved. Everything else is going up, groceries, gas etc. I think a better question is will we better off 4 years from now?

Since my income is so low I no longer pay income taxes, and apparently since I don't make over $200 - $250K a year I don't even matter to Romney. I'm just not in that league. Most American's aren't. Given that I can only vote for Obama. Is he perfect? Nope. And it's not like he hasn't tried. Unfortunately, right after he was elected the R had a mandate that he would be a one term President, and Congress (the House in particular) has done everything they possibly can to block any and everything he's tried to do. Hell, they won't even compromise on anything. It's their way or the highway. If Romney is elected I'm certain that I'll be worse off in 4 years. At least with Obama there is a chance I might be better off in 4 years. I still have hope.

Having to get by on less has taught me one thing for sure. That's to simplify my life. Got rid of house that was sucking me dry and now rent a smaller place. Gave up a ton of "things" that were also draining my energy. I may not be better off yet, but I am a happier person overall. Peace.

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EBurger

10:06 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Obama never compromised when the Dems controlled Congress. It was not until the overhaul in Nov. 2010, that Obama started whining about compromise. He can not even get one vote from his own party for his budget. Class warfare is the only message that he continues to survive on.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin

8:06 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

How the press covers for Obama. Their job is to delude you into believing that you are better off. It's a hard sell:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/09/13/Press-Endangers-Private-Citizen-to-Distract-from-Obamas-Middle-East-Failures
The template is predictable: private citizen hurts Obama's election chances, media destroys private citizen.

The Middle Eastern riots for which this film was scapegoated have shown President Obama to be weak-willed, slow to act, and derelict in his duty during a foreign policy crisis. And this makes the press furious. He, and now some random guy eligible for a McDonald's senior discount just obliterated that entire narrative.
This private individual and GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney have been the outlet for the mainstream media's rage -- not at the loss of American lives but at the loss of Barack Obama's credibility. Is that an unfair evaluation of their mindset? Absolutely not; just take a look at their actions. Obama's press corps has yet to ask the president one question about the week's continuing violence. Not one question asking whether the State Department considered posting extra security at Mideast embassies for the anniversary of 9/11. Not one question about his regular absence from daily intelligence briefings. Not one question about taking 16 hours to disavow a tone-deaf apology from the U.S.'s Cairo embassy.

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Barb Cantor

8:20 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

I am worse off because housing prices were inflated and they have tanked; the stock market played badly with my retirement money. I feel for those who were taken advantage by the mortgage industry by getting loans for more than their properties were worth. I am upset by the greed in our society - the super rich who want their taxes reduced, the insurance companies, stores asking people to buy, buy, buy on credit. I will support Pres. Obama and feel that with another 4 years he will be able to turn things around IF and only IF Congress can work together and both parties listen to the issues and not vote their rigid party agenda llke sheep falling off a cliff. I do not think that the Republicans can sweep in and change the picture for the better as many do. The issues are far too complex to give an opinion in one paragraph

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Buck Harmon

9:02 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Democrats and Republicans have played an equal role in the demise of our economy, the Constitution and thereby our Country. Doesn't matter who gets elected this time around...screwed either way. The REAL world leaders love this kind of tit for tat history based discussion that leads to nothing because of the illusion that it creates for the apathetic. The apathetic citizens are the majority in this Country and that is where the strength to keep things as they are comes from.

While the folks that seem to care and pay attention battle it out about the perceived history that has brought us to our knees the REAL world rulers continue to move their plan for us to the future...the folks that care don't really count because they seem to be stuck in the illusion of finger pointing instead of planning.
I would like to see our Country completely fail so that the majority,~ the apathetic will be forced to wake up and pay attention with a fresh, but hurting perspective.
Only then will we be able to begin the REAL restoration that this Country is starving for. It's time to CUT THE CRAP!

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Mike M

9:05 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

My family is better off. I started a new business in January of 2008 and it has grown steadily ever since. My stock portfolio has fortunately recovered and I don't have to genuinely worry about whether or not my bank is going to collapse and take a chunk of my savings with it. My home isn't worth what it was, but given the silly growth it had a few years ago, the value is still well above what I paid for it.

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Tom

8:05 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

So the Bush Tax cuts did work!

Bob

10:04 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

As a retired Fed, of course not!

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John

10:40 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

There is no straight cut answer to this question. It all depends on which news you read or listen to. But the truth is the world is different today than it was 3 and a half years ago, and it will be different come January.

The question should be what can we as a nation do to:
a. Better our economy
b. make the world a safer place for our children.

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Steve

10:53 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

That right there is why President Obama is going to be a slam dunk in this election

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John

9:25 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

>Steve, I am amazed you got that out of what I said. I would not vote for him if he was running unaposed. As Romney said there are 47% of you out there that will never change your mind. Keep your beliefs that is what makes this a great country and what will ultimately be it's downfall.

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John

9:43 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Frank - Because my answer doesn't agree with your beliefs doesn't make my wrong. I am lucky I am in my 50th year of employment and it will be my last as I retire in December. I will be drawing Social Security, and my military retirement which should put me in the 47% that doesn't pay taxes. I don't see how that is going to happen as my children are grown and their is only my wife and I. I fully expect to pay taxes both Federal and state, they just won't be to Maryland. By the way John is a common name, just ask the other John you have been arguing with this entire thread. have a great life and may this country take a turn for the better come November.

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Steve

9:50 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

It's probably not going to take a real turn for the better until about the 6 month mark of President Obama's Second term. Then things will really take off.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin

11:08 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

So if you're unemployed that doesn't matter. It only reads which news you read?
Well, there are two universal truths.

Our economy is not better and doesn't appear to have any chance of getting better.

The world is not safer for anyone.

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Mike M

1:17 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

our economy is not better than what? It's clearly improved from when Obama took over. You may say that it should have recovered faster/stronger whatever, but to claim that our current situation is not better than it was when 700,000 people were losing jobs each month, banks and major industries failing, is just....wrong.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

1:40 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Not if you're one of the 23 million unemployed. Tell them it's wrong not to feel the economy is better.

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Mike M

1:55 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

You claimed that your statement was a "universal truth". Are you backing off of that or is 8% the new "universal"?

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Tom

8:01 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

@Mike M. using less people filing for unemployement as a measure of whether we are better off makes no sense when you account for the people that have just given up looking for work and a record low labor participation percentage. Obama and all his cronies just took advantage of the economic crisis to implement more progressive agendas which is why we are not better off.

Steve

11:31 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

If everything was all doom and gloom the Romney and Lyin' Ryan could highlight that instead of fabricating things.

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Tom

7:56 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

If you would look at what is behind all the economic numbers (debt, unemployment, gdp, labor participation rate, %tax paid by the rich, etc.) maybe you would understand the doom and gloom I see and that the current administration is lyin.

William Smyth

12:12 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Dishonesty, greed, and hatefulness. I can't vote for a party that displays those characteristics in such extremes. Why would anyone not want to help people in need? Is it because they've never wanted or needed for anything in their entire lives? Who honestly believes that life on Earth would be better if we all adopted the "take care of numero uno" attitude? Why is it that because we believe in taking care of the poor, sick, and less fortunate, that we're accused of actually "wanting" to take care of freeloaders, as well?

There has never been a more complete waste of a person's energy and time than to sit and discuss politics with people who have cold hearts and deaf ears.

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Marcus Aurelius

1:30 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

puh leez, nobody is saying not to hel pthose in need, it is the ones that are not in need that are sucking off the welfare dime that need to be removed, if it is a able body person it should be working

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Polly

4:58 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

@ William Smyth - I couldn't agree more. Best evidence is of the recent disclosure of Romney's talk with his millionaire/billionaire cronies. He's one disgusting human being for sure. Further evidence that he lacks a heart by any measure. I don't have much but, still I'm always there to help others out in a time of need.

Scot Brown

12:59 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Yes I am better off. And in fact it is because of the recovery act that my company did not have to let me go.

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Tom

7:52 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Please enlighten us on how my tax dollars saved your job.

Marcus Aurelius

1:29 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Of course not, everything has never been worse or cost more, this administration is without a doubt the worst in American history, it is the liberal way spend way more then you take in then blame someone else and of course get others to pay for it, there are 15 million more people getting food stamps, peoples homes have fallen over 40% the country is just about done and democrats want another stimulus to make sure it happens quicker, if Obama gets reelected this country is finished and we will never be able to get it back to WE THE PEOPLE. We all know the africans are going to vote for the Kenyan only because of skin color, (which is racist by the way) sos we have to hope the other races of the country do vote for the community organizer and worst president in american history again.

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Brian

1:48 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

LOL Africans are not allowed to vote in the US election. Dont forget the Establishment vowed to not let Pres. Obama succeed by any mean necessary. The didnt say this because his policies were bad, but because of what he represents. The Establishment made these and other off type statements well before they knew what Pres. Obama's policies would be. To admit that Pres. Obama has had any success would be admitting that someone like him could actually run this country. The Establishment can not let that happen.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin

1:43 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Here's why the news doesn't matter. The DOJ under Obama is using new media to control what you know. Which means you will never know the level of corruptions and incompetency of Obama:
http://educationviews.org/media-matters-and-justice-dept-sleep-together/
Internal Department of Justice emails obtained by The Daily Caller show Attorney General Eric Holder’s communications staff has collaborated with the left-wing advocacy group Media Matters for America in an attempt to quell news stories about scandals plaguing Holder and America’s top law enforcement agency.

Dozens of pages of emails between DOJ Office of Public Affairs Director Tracy Schmaler and Media Matters staffers show Schmaler, Holder’s top press defender, working with Media Matters to attack reporters covering DOJ scandals. TheDC obtained the emails through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request.
Emails sent in September and November 2010 show Schmaler working with Media Matters staffer Jeremy Holden on attacking news coverage of the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation scandal.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

3:47 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Oh yes, those horrible home schoolers, saving the taxpayers tens of millions a year. They are to be reviled for that.

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You made me laugh!

10:51 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

@Bill you make a great point. I was watching fox news the other day, thanking baby jesus, that they are on the television. I mean they are the only channel that tells the truth. All the other media tries to trick me into thinking things. It is like they are able to get in my brain or something. I am glad you see it too.

P.s. I don't know about the justice department sleeping with media matters but I am totally for the amendment that makes only man on woman sex legal. If Sarah Palin was in power none of this would be happening, that's for sure.

Angel

3:51 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Better than four years ago... Certainly. But not because of Obama. My life has improved greatly because of actions I took not because of anything the government did or neglected to do. I have a job now, instead of relying on Social security (death benefits) bc Obama did nothing for me in that dept. I get paid more an hour because I took the iniative to find a good job. Not because Obama made more/better jobs.. Just sayin.
Not to mention the bad things.. like my boyfriend and I couldn't find a place to rent because of the increased amount of rentals needed b/c people are losing their houses. Some of us are not ready to buy a house yet and need to rent... Those of you who had a chance to own your own houses and lost it... Obama may be the problem, or your just irresponsible.

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Polly

4:53 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

@ Angel - how did Obama effect you not getting SS Death Benefits? If you were entitled to them they would have been so easy to get.

As for rents being high, yes they sure are and you don't get nearly what you pay for.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

6:44 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

And why are rents high in Maryland? It's because there are so many regulations concerning rental properties that owners of those rental properties have to charge higher rents in response to the risk. Also, many landlords got out of the business after Maryland created many state laws concerning lead based paint and forcing landlords to accept that risk. Insurers don't cover lead based paint risk so landlords were forced to sell the houses to get rid of the risk. I know because I sold several houses I used to rent out just for that reason. If you want to know why rents are so high in Maryland look to the state and local governments who keep passing more laws and regulations concerning rental housing. Each time they pass another act more landlords sell out here and invest in other states creating a shortage of rental units in Maryland. Montgomery County in particular hates the landlord class.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

8:20 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Frank is right about one thing. People are flocking to Montgomery County Maryland and the majority coming here are illegal aliens with little income. They come for the freebies. The people leaving, and it's well documented, are the people with assets and wealth who are smart enough to see what's coming, higher property taxes and higher piggyback taxes.

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Angel

9:44 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

I did get the Death benefits because I applied for them & got them before he took office. They did however reduce the amount I was paid after obama took office. SS benefits are supposed to increase with the cost of living mine decreased even though the cost of living increased. I lived in PA for the last 10 years of my life and just moved Back to MD last year. Since then I have bettered my life, but I will say that the cost of living here is absolutely ridiculous, PA may be full of idiots and addicts but it is way cheaper to live there and way safer. I rented a 2 bedroom house in Hanover, PA and it cost $550 a month plus utilities.. You know what a 2 bedroom house here costs? about $1200 minimum plus utilities.. how are people supposed to live? I was forced to overcome my health issues to work again (not a bad thing) thank god I was ready to do it.. or I would be homeless!!!!

Polly

7:06 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

@ Bill Hussein O'Stalin - that is complete and utter BS! The rents are higher because they can, simply put. People who are losing or lost their homes for whatever reason have become renters. For whatever reason there are more and more renters and the property owners have cornered the market. They know that
renting is on the increase and so they charge more. Further, more and more apartment complexes are being built all over the place, especially in HoCo, where I am.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

7:40 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

I'm sorry to hear you think that. It shows you have no comprehension of what is going on or why you are paying higher rents. First off, property owners can not corner the market. There is just too much variety in the market and the government would not and should not permit anyone to corner a market. If apartment buildings are being built there is a market for cheaper rental units. You yourself acknowledge that. And yes, landlords will charge what the market will bear. And who determines that? The consumers. If anyone has a market cornered it's the consumers. If consumers won't pay then landlords have to reduce their rates.

Also, you bring up the foreclosure mess. I suggest you read about the CRA and how the government created the mess. Many liberals will disagree but at least get a different point of view.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/12/hey-barney-frank-the-government-did-cause-the-housing-crisis/249903/
The affordable housing law required Fannie and Freddie to meet government quotas when they bought loans from banks and other mortgage originators.

At first, this quota was 30%; that is, of all the loans they bought, 30% had to be made to people at or below the median income in their communities. HUD, however, was given authority to administer these quotas, and between 1992 and 2007, the quotas were raised from 30% to 50% under Clinton in 2000 and to 55% under Bush in 2007.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

7:47 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Like I noted. This is why landlords are getting out of the business and prices are only going to go higher because of the risk of regulations:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/12624-epa-lead-based-paint-rules-cost-landlords-thousands-of-dollars-in-fines
Strict lead-based paint regulations imposed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) have resulted in costly fines to businesses and landlords looking to sell or rent their property. “Thinking of renting or selling a home or apartment?” the EPA asked in a press release in April 2010, when its Renovation, Repair, and Painting (RRP) rule went into effect. “Make sure you disclose its lead-based paint history. Mr. Wolfe Landau did not and it cost him a $20,000 fine.”

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

8:10 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Shows you how little Frank knows. I wonder how surprised Frank would be to find out that lead based paint was used on the basis of federal and local government recommendations and insistence? Frank is an example of the perfect liberal. Only knows how to use insults because that takes the intelligence of a 9 year old and are easy to learn. Facts are difficult to learn.
http://www.leadlawsuits.com/index.php?s=699
The use of lead pigment in house paint is explained by three uncontested facts:

Master painters demanded lead-based paint, and government experts described it as the “best choice for house owners," because it was washable and durable.
Federal and state governments recommended, and often specified its use – in the 1920s, the 1930s and all the way to the 1970s.
No U.S. public health official or government – federal, state or local –advocated restricting the use of lead in house paint until 1949, when public health investigations in Baltimore first identified the risks to children from chipping and peeling lead paint in poorly maintained homes. The federal government did not ban the use of lead-based house paint until the 1970s.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

8:24 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

No Frank. It shows how the government is often mismanaged by elected officials. First, they insist on lead based paint. Now they ban it. I agree with ban but the risk in Maryland was foisted on the landlords and with little warning. The state should have started a risk pool allowing landlords to pay in to reduce the risk. The state hates the investor class so they wouldn't even consider it. Look at asbestos. Asbestos was used at government insistence. When it became apparent how dangerous it was the laws were changed again and the private sector had to pony up for making products that they were required to make by law. The outcome? Investors determine risk more thoroughly now including environmental risks. I'm all for that. But to deny that government regulations increase costs is complete idiocy.

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Polly

8:16 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Steve - Oh Lord, just what we don't need any more of....Lorna the freaking Loon

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

8:28 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Why are liberals so racist? Answer: It's their religion. It's Godless.

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B Allen

2:46 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012

Democrats (the Party of the KKK) ARE racist. Look how they like to keep blacks down in the cities. Poor education (even NObama voted against the voucher program) and won't allow blacks to go to better schools. What about paying more and more Welfare for every kid out wedlock, the dems know they are going to get that vote. Maybe blacks should look at it and ask themselves, DO I really want to live like this? Why did Nobama say you don't have to look for work in order to get welfare? I know some libs who are big racists, one lives on my street and is a government worker. The WOMAN in this video gets it, maybe blacks should listen to people like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=906ouIDUdOw

Steve

8:30 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Lead Paint. Explains a lot. Bill stop eating it.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

8:31 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

You apparently beat me to it. You cornered the market.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin

10:05 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Frank and You made me laugh, and Steve are perfect examples of the sick and twisted sociopaths who make up the party of liberalism these days. They have no thoughts of their own. Only the insults you find from 9 year old mentalities.

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You made me laugh!

10:28 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

@Bill I am on your side. Can't you recognize your friends! When Romney said he could ignore 47% of the country I knew he was the man for me.

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin

10:49 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

You should seek mental counselling. Your comments are not funny and only indicate you are a sick and twisted individual.

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You made me laugh!

11:34 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

@Bill it seems to me that you are not a real conservative. Are you telling me Romney should pay attention to 47% of the voters? Next you are going to say that corporations are not people.

You and Frank should band together you liberals make no sense!

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Steve

11:38 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

"Who are those people?"

~ Antoinette Romney

Marina

10:47 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

I am a Tax Professional (EA) dealing with small business and a very small investor of a 4 unit building (old house dived in small units back in 1960) in Annapolis. Here situation:
My clients based has decreased - some small business have closed - some try to do in-house basic bookkeeping accounting work (good or bad they will prefer to save money now and deal with and audit -IF it happens- later). Downtown Shops in Annapolis - come to Main and Maryland Avenue- are closing, a few new ones may open (drinking holes) but many of the office or retail spaces are empty. Real Eastate - Annapolis Property Taxes are higher than DC. P T in DC includes trash (picked up twice a week, with BULK trash on demand for free up to 5 items). Annapolis house values decreased but the rates are increased, trash collection reduced and rate increased, water rates doubled. while the City gives permission to build new houses the market has the largest inventory (ever) so people either rent very low or foreclose. BTW the refeclosed properties in US has double. Someone mention LEAD in Annapolis if you are landlord is a NIGHTMARE- US unemployment is high - BTW how many people without job register ? - HIGHER than 4 years ago. Could the "other guy" have done better ... we don't know .. reality is that OBAMA (and you may like or not) was a product of the media. The majority of people who voted for him had no idea who he was before the media started chanting his vision for the future.

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B Allen

12:15 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

But Marina, the left does NOT want to hear the REAL truth of what is going on. They live a rosey world because they STILL feel that Obama is going to pay for everything for them one day...maybe they think they have 72 vestal virgins waithing for them, but what do the leftie women have waiting for them, have you ever wondered> Maybe it is camels? Who knows what they think, it is ALWAYS IRRATIONAL THOUGHTS ANYWAY. hERE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE ON HOW THESE PEOPLE THINK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpCHvHWUAvw AND THEY ARE still WAITING http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

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B Allen

5:12 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

of course it is. Housing prices are way down, money is cheap. Why not buy a new home or add on? It only makes sense. Obamas' failed policies made it happen. 100 bad decisions and now one positive comes out of it...hahaha wow great record hahaha oh wait, it did take him 16 hours to have the Navy Seals pull the trigger.

Avocado

12:52 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

I think I'm better off now! Went from renting in DC to owning my first home in Maryland. Most days I think this is an upgrade, except when Metro, the crime blotter, or stories about crazy neighbors make me think otherwise. :/ Obama all the way!

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B Allen

12:09 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Well, it is a NO brainer that you can afford a home now. The money you were spending on rent in DC was probably double of what your house payment is. With that being said, under the previous run democrat majority congress w/ stretch pelosi, they managed to ruin the economy with Obama at the helm. Houses are not worth what they were previously, my home is worth $120K less that it was preObama, my retirement funds and investments are down 38%, interest rates are at an all time low, but gas is still up, cost of living is up, food prices are up, utilities are up, numbers of uemployment are up STILL, number of people on welfare is up 45%, coal industry is being devastated and more people will be out of work and on unemployment, more of our tax dollars are going to Mexico and South America AND YOU are concerned about your crazy neighbors???? But then again you must be a liberal and think only about yourself. Just like you want redistribution (since you want obama again) but what are you going to say when he wants more of your income in taxes, which he already has a plan for. Get the facts before you make irrational statements.

B Allen

12:21 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

NOT REALLY FRANKIEGIRL...You are using the leftie calculator. Sure the dow is up, but that is the guys making stuff, but when you look at the transportation average, it is way down. Guys are making stuff but not as much is being shipped, why? Because people are not spending like they were...your facts are just pure nonsense and made up by you people. Get the real facts. BTW, at least I have made much more than you will dream of and have money to invest, instead of living from government paycheck to government paycheck You are a horses butt frankiegirl. Again you have made yourself out the fool.

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